Okay, this isn't talking about anyone else, but if I were to ship it, here's why it'd make me, personally, uncomfortable.

The natural answer would be because they're cousins. But my reasoning digs into the counter to it.

Anyone would say, "well, they're not actually related, they're not actually cousins, so it's fine."

Let me explain further:

I have five younger siblings. Three of those siblings are biological. One is adopted. And one is a foster.

I still count them as my siblings just as much as I count my biological siblings, my siblings.

Let's just make this clear, please:

Just because you aren't biologically related to someone doesn't mean you're any less family than those who you are biologically related to.

And when I hear people disregard this, I get really sad, because what I hear is that my siblings aren't "actually my siblings", just because they're aren't biologically connected to me.

And that could not be further from the truth - even for my foster sibling.

They're my life, guys. No matter how annoyed I get by them, I've never felt a love for these two like I have for anyone before, because I get the blessing of having see them grow up, and actually remember it, unlike with my other three siblings, since I was young when they were born.

I also happen to know someone who has one biological brother, two step-siblings, and a half sister. And their schedules are kinda weird since they're going back and forth between all the parent's houses, but I've seen the way he is with his step-siblings. He stays up late talking to his brother (note my use of the word brother, not step-brother), and he cuddles with his sister (she's 9).

It's clear that he doesn't consider them any less family than his dad or biological brother.

So it's quite insulting to not only the family of those adopted, but those who are actually adopted, too.

There are other parts to the counter, besides that, such as, "Sophie doesn't consider them family", but that's not what I was addressing here.

So the moral of the story is:

Don't try to justify a ship by saying, "they're not biologically related, so it's okay".

I just want to say ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰😍😍😘😍🟤❤️🥰😍🥰🥰😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 to kotlc Team Linh for the WINNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

Okay so I was thinking about KotLC's characters. At first glance they seem normal, and you move on, right? Well at the beginning of the series everyone was treated like children and nothing was wrong with their world. (for the most part, Keefe still had parent issues etc) And as they found out about the Neverseen they were scared and worried that their "perfect" world was going to collapse right? Yeah well at some point they all grew up and matured and decided that a perfect world wasn't what they needed. They realized that they had to face their fears, not cover them up or run away.

Think about Biana. She started out as protective of her brother, and I'll admit, she wasn't the most likable to me. She was a Vacker, the best of the best, and thought highly of herself. Now she's one of the only Vanishers that can hide from gnomes, and I'll say one of the strongest metal characters in the series. She took on those scars she has to save her friends, not for herself. And that's just Biana.

Think about Fitz, who was easy going and flirted with just about every girl he came across. Now he's training and putting everything aside to take down the Neverseen.

Oh and don't even get me started on Tam. His sister was banished and he stuck with her, showing he was stubborn but caring. He didn't want anything to do with anyone before Sophie came and he started to see things differently. Then he joined the Black Swan which must have been hard after all those years of ignoring everyone and talking as little as possible. And of course he was worried about his sister who trusted almost everyone she came across.

Sophie is the main character so we all know about her. But that doesn't make it any less interesting to dive down and explore her more. Sophie has so many abilities and lets just say if I was an elf and had that many I would be freaking out and panicking. But she doesn't. She trains and gets them under control, then uses them for good and for their advantage. (let me just say it's kinda disappointing that she has all those abilities and they haven't really made a dent in the Neverseen) No one else really understands what she feels and thinks because she's so different from them. Sure, Keefe's an Empath but just because he knows what she's feeling doesn't mean he understands them. And the same to Fitz with the Telepath. At the beginning of the series Sophie was the 12 year old senior who hid in the back of the room and listened to music to muffle thoughts. Now she's the rule-breaking, fighting, mysterious miss F, and all these things.

Keefe went from being a prankster, (which he still kinda is) someone who didn't care about breaking the rules, (which still applies) and someone who never really cared what was happening around him. Now the only things he thinks about really are Sophie and taking down the Neverseen. He's fighting along side of everyone else, not against them.

Linh was an outcast. She had to face the temptations the water sent at her, which we find in Nightfal, when Sophie shared Linh's abilities. And that was only for a minute or two. That probably made no sense but i am in a rush now! going back to "she was an outcast". Tam was overprotective of her, which had to be frustrating sometimes. Never the less, she loved her twin and now, instead of hiding from everything, she's facing it and using her powerful ability to help.

This isn't finished yet but I have to go so Ig i'll do the rest later...

So Glimmer has had some lines that make her seem pretty smart and cunning and manipulative.

She seriously is, and it's honestly pretty cool to see, and it honestly scares me a little, lol

But those lines were mostly in Unlocked.

In Legacy, I feel like we see almost a different side of her, and there's a few lines that I was going through that kind of pointed to it (someone also requested this, and somehow I forgot, so I'm two days late, but I'm doing it now).

I will explain why they make me think she's young, too.

Okay, first line:

"You'd seriously go back on your word?"

Yeah, lol, this wouldn't strike anyone here, but the word "seriously" suggests, to me personally, that her phrasing is that of a teenager. That's what a lot of us say, "Wait, seriously?" "Omigosh, are you serious?" etc.

"I know. But . . . I want to hear it from her."

Here, it isn't about word choice, but her pause in between the words "but" and "I", that seems, to me, like she's a teenager, since the pause kind of . . . . seems to represent a level of surprise, disbelief, and also almost vulnerability, depending on her tone.

I know that it could be the same for an adult, but this seems to be coming from someone who has deluded herself into being completely loyal to the cause. I don't think that most adults would be as needing-to-please Gisela

(*sigh* I know that second paragraph is confusing, but it's too much to go into here, tbh)

The last one in the actual canon book is less of a line and more of a chunk.

When Gisela was being pretty cagey about breaking her deal with Tam, there was a long silence, and Tam said, "See what I mean now?"

To which Glimmer said, "Yeah, I think I do . . ."

And then later, after Gisela said she'd deal with them later, Glimmer said, "The thing is . . . I don't think you will."

And then she grabbed Tam's wrists in a hurry.

Okay, honestly this made me want to laugh, bc it almost seems like teenage dramatics at play here, tbh.

It's a big turning point in the battle - probably the turning point - and it was certainly emphasized, I think.

This may not seem like much, but teenagers are ~occasionally~ dramatic like that, and both Tam and Glimmer fed into that trait in that moment (lol, I have proof of this on Tam's part)

Now in Tam's section in Legacy, I think I marked down a few too.

Again, she kinda uses some more - not quite "slang" terms - but definitely more common words that hint that she's at more of a teenage stage.

"Or because you want everyone to see your awesome bangs?"

Yeah, here's the word "awesome", and then complimenting him on his looks. Idk, this feels like a real teenage thing to say.

When he still didn't respond, she sighed - then leaned closer and whispered, "Gethen's mad at you."

This is more about discription, "leaned closer and whispered". This kind of hints that she's feeling a bit of secrecy here, almost, and she feels the need to be discreet. Leaning closer and whispering is the way I'd see a teenager "trying to be discreet".

Plus, she - dang it, I had something to add there, but now - ohhhh right, I remember now (lol, don't you love the way memories work?).

It seemed to me as if she was trying to provoke him - and she was. He literally says that she tries to get him to talk, and I think that this would be a teenage brain's way of saying, "haha, I'm going to try to get this person to talk, so let's whisper to them something that might make them mad."

Idk, maybe it's just me for this one, but this is probably the biggest for me.

Here's another term of more teenage language.

"Shades are weird."

I mean . . . idk what to say about this one.

Again, her terminology here just kinda hints at her being younger.

"I just . . . don't understand why you have to be so stubborn," she said to him. "You don't have to be all alone here. You could have friends."

There's a couple things here, that might almost point to naivete. Her thinking she could be friends with someone who was obviously there against his will.

That pause at the beginning also shows that she may be feeling like she wants to open up to him, but doesn't know how. It kind of depends on her tone, which unfortunately Tam didn't really mention, so we don't really know, but the way I read it, it seems to me like she was almost getting "soft" there, if that makes any sense.

That is not me trying to stereotype girls into being soft (she even mentioned she heard Tam crying), but it does seem like this is her softening in something.

Okay, that's way too much guesswork, and doesn't make all that much sense, and all that, and you probably still don't see why this points to her being a teenager, but this just strikes me as something that she'd phrase as a teenager.

Then Glimmer grabbed her book and stalked away.

Again, a little more dramatic exit here. She couldn't have just walked away?

"Stalking" is what a lot of people do to signal that they're angry - and yes, that's what Glimmer was doing given the context of the scene. It's just . . . yeah.

(okay, sorry guys - I am really doing a terrible job at explaining this, but I'll try to get through to the end and we'll see what happens.)

Glimmer shrugged, picking up the tiny cat statue from his bedside table (yes, that cat statue, lol - Glamtue for life) and trailing her finger along its curved tail. "It gets lonely here."

Again, showing a bit of vulnerability here.

Why might this make her a teenager?

Going back to that naive-ness I've mentioned.

Also: she shows almost a sort of obsession with this cat statue, which could point to immaturity? We don't know all that much about it, but it's sparkly, and a cat . . . and she obviously likes it, since she put it there.

And finally, I think that the entire last scene shows her inexperience and lack of thought in a certain area: whether she would leave the Neverseen or not, really.

She takes some steps back, and hesitates when she says she doesn't know. Gets defensive over it when he calls her out.

Dang, I really wish we could've gotten scenes from her pov, or I hope that we will, but yeah, there you go.

Some Glimmer lines that strike me as teenage terms, and yeah

Lol i realized i didn't put enough options...like WHY you would miss me, my button, etc. so this thingy right here is basically explaining why im making another poll like it. (fyi this is me trying to start a trend so....wink wink)

Why I tentatively trust Glimmer:

Tam

Why would I trust one person just bc of another?

Great question! Now I'm going to answer :)

It's bc of their specific relationship, personalities, and my own inferences.

Okay, so let's start off by what we know about Glimmer, which while it isn't much compared to the other characters, we see a lot about her just from the short time she's in Unlocked.

-We know that she probably isn't quick to trust, which is a trait we've seen displayed among just about every single one of the Neverseen's members. But also bc she refuses to lower her cloak. That could be bc she's suspicious or something, but here's the thing: If she really actually trusted them, she'd take it down. But she doesn't take it down, which leads me to assume that she doesn't trust them automatically (thankfully)

-She's also very snarky and full of attitude, which . . . I'm not really sure if this is just her personality, since a lot of the Neverseen's members seem to have it, but . . . she did make a lot of good points, and I think it might just be her who points out all the flaws within the Black Swan (if she meets with Sophie in the next book and immediately wants to help her despite her claims in Unlocked, I'm just gonna qofhodaek3qkdn)

-Okay, she's very manipulative. Sophie, Fitz, and Biana went into that meeting intending to convince her they were her equals. It didn't really work, as she proceeded to snap at them, and then she managed to get them to agree to her terms, that got her exactly what she wanted (to go to the storehouse and get her stuff)

-Which leads me to her next trait: clever/smart. Not just bc of the example I mentioned above, but did we forget that she literally tricked Gisela into thinking that that starstone was gone, and then went back and got it later

-She's a planner, or she likes to be prepared. Going back to the starstone thing: the only reason she did that was bc she wanted to be prepared (as she directly states). She wasn't planning on leaving, but she knew that anything could go wrong, and proceeded to plan ahead for it.

Alright, let's move onto Tam. Since we already know a lot about him, I'll only touch on the traits that really matter here (and you might wonder why I'm including them, but I'll get to that later). Also, feel free to skip these, since you prob know them already.

-He loves very deeply when he finds someone worth dying for. This all goes back to Linh, since, from what I can see, she seems to be the only person who he really cares about. Not that he doesn't care about the others, but she's the only one who he'd be willing to do the thing to Keefe for, really. Anyway, back on point: I think Mr Forkle says it best, "I think that when it really comes down to it, there is very little Mr. Tam wouldn't do for his sister". Okay, that's more of a paraphrase since I don't remember the exact line, but you get the point (I hope).

-He's affectionate - you can see that the two have little moments of affection for each other, just from some small instances we see between them. Like when Linh flicks his bangs. Or we've even seen instances of him taking her hand, especially when he - or she, or both of them - feels threatened.

-He's very protective. So I believe that if Tam found someone else, and really truly cared about them the way he cares about Linh, he can and will be very protective of him.

-Not afraid of the hard truths. If something doesn't seem right to him, he'll call it out, whether he wants to or not. Look at the situation with his parents. He obviously struggled very much when he was growing up bc he wouldn't let anyone pass he and Linh over as separate babies, and that must've started from a very young age.

-Not very trusting either. His childhood is something that, I think, will be affect him forever. He naturally doesn't like to trust new people, but after what he experienced as a child, he's very slow to trust, so that he and Linh can't be tricked or something. It took him quite a while to even be so much as comfortable to talk to Sophie, then it took quite a while longer for him to be okay with taking her to where he and Linh were staying, and even then, he was hesitant to share everything he knew.

-Cautious. We see how long it takes for him to warm up to new people, and he obviously doesn't like to reveal all his secrets immediately.

I think that's about everything that's relative to this post.

Now onto why I actually trust Glimmer, starting with putting all of Tam's traits together. He loves very deeply, and will be quite affectionate at times. Incredibly protective of those who worm their way into his heart. He's not afraid of hard truths, he's cautious, and he isn't really that trusting.

And yet somehow Glimmer has managed to convince him to trust her. Which really says something, given how all of his traits fit together.

If he sees fit to literally let Glimmer move in with him, and then let Linh move out. okay, guys - he didn't want her to move out. He didn't force her to move out just bc he wanted to stay close to Glimmer and make sure she wasn't doing anything. He genuinely wanted Glimmer to stay with him and Linh - and he deemed it perfectly fine for Glimmer to be living with Linh.

Given his extreme protectiveness and love for Linh, this is an incredible trait for Glimmer to manage to worm her way under that barrier he's set up around himself.

There has to be a really good reason for him to be okay with Glimmer moving in, and Linh moving out.

Like, I couldn't even believe that he didn't kick Glimmer to the curb when he found out that Linh was moving out bc Glimmer was moving in, as he obviously regards Linh's judgement highly, but he still chucked it out the window when considering Glimmer, which also tells me something.

I think that there's a reason behind all this, as Tam clearly doesn't consider Glimmer to be threatening, and he still trusts her.

And because of these traits in Tam, but he still trusts her, that's why I trust her (for now, lol)

*sigh* I know it doesn't make much sense. but yeah, that's the tired-rambly version of me's logic.

So, if I want to RP how do I do that? I will go to the page and click the little link it gives but it will just take me to the home page and I'll do it again but the same thing will happen. I might be missing something or just a major noob, but I can't figure it out and I could use some help. Please and thanks :)

In the book Everblaze if you turn the book upside down Sophie's face is so ugly and fat no offense to any kotlc reader dont stalk me plz.

So I have been finishing a kotlc book like every 2 weeks and I’m on legacy... I’m getting unlocked and then it’s to waiting for the 9th book.. I seriously don’t know what to read. Please help me. Preferably a series because I like to attach to the characters and then have them disappoint me or die. Ooo since this wiki is dead.. might as well get off topic to a topic that doesn’t relate to kotlc. Today in class we did a scattergories which is a website where it picks a random letter and categories and you come up with a thing that starts with the letter and fits the category. (Example: R, something that hops: Rabbit) Anyway, people we’re getting real dark.One of the category’s was Something black and people were saying things like rotting humans and a pool of red blood that turned black (I don’t understand, don’t ask) and I’m just like.. making kotlc references. Everyone was just like.. ‘What?’. Anyone have the same problem? Anyway, I don’t know how I got from, ‘what book series should I read’ to, I make weird references and my class is dark’ but... whatever. Here’s to another ramble!