Thread:72.73.32.16/@comment-37887154-20190111220716/@comment-37887154-20190130164637

The message: 8:32 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC Hi Z

8:32 Z-FunWithBooks Hi So, what was it? Seriously, I stay d up again

8:33 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC wdym? you asked to talk 8:33

Z-FunWithBooks Remember yesterday? You wnevrr finished

8:33 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC yeah ik oh

8:33 Z-FunWithBooks
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8:33 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC well, we started drafting the letter

8:33 Z-FunWithBooks Mhm

8:33 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC (it's already like 2 pages long XD)

8:34 Z-FunWithBooks what the...? Wait Candy told you right?

8:34 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC told me about what

8:34 Z-FunWithBooks Er, it’s not really my place to say, but she said she’s going to stop helping with this

8:35 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC i know that....

8:35 Z-FunWithBooks Wait, we’re talking about the Admin thing, right?

8:35 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC its more complicated than that tho yeah

8:35 Z-FunWithBooks I know I have been told I know a lot more people that you’d think (At least on here) soo, the letter?

8:36 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC We wrote an essay.

8:36 Z-FunWithBooks Mhm

8:36 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC It's topic paragraph, paragraph about anonymity, two paragraphs on abuse of power on discord, two on wiki, and so far we have two conclusion paragraphs its seriously super long

8:37 Z-FunWithBooks What th even...?

8:37 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC ?

8:37 Z-FunWithBooks You see why I’m not helping with this? The way you’re doing this isn’t right And out of my own curiosity, how has Cath abused power? All the examples I’ve been getting are about Eva

8:38 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC We're not going to upfront ask to have them removed, we're going to tell them what they're doing wrong. What the *people* of the server think about them, and not just the good friends to them. No one wants to dissapoint them. Cath *has* abused her power, in built-up minor ways.

8:39 Z-FunWithBooks As a former *person* of the server, I haven’t seen any abuse of power

8:39 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC She has been deleting pages that have *no need* to be deleted, and does it without consulting the creators first. You also made a good impression on them. Me, being good friends with BLue, has had it differently.

8:40 Z-FunWithBooks How have I made a good impression on them?

8:40 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC Cath has also turned down templates that Candy had spent HOURS working on, just because she didn't like this or that little thing about them.

8:41 Z-FunWithBooks You know, I’m also friends with Blue?

8:41 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC You have always been obedient and "made a good face" for the wiki. Shipitlikefedex, candy, others, and I had it differend.

8:41 Z-FunWithBooks Umm okay?

8:41 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC I know you're friends with Blue, but there was this one time in the CMs chat that Nika and I defended him, and we started getting treated differently after that

8:42 Z-FunWithBooks Being told that I’m uptight isn’t the nicest thing to hear ever... oh ohhh

8:42 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC I'm just saying that you're the perfect example of a good wiki member. (to the admins)

8:43 Z-FunWithBooks Okay Sure

8:43 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC what were you ohhhing about?

8:43 Z-FunWithBooks You know I’ve gotten a notice/warning right?

8:43 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC no what happened?

8:43 Z-FunWithBooks The CMs thing you told me about is what I was ohhing about

8:44 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC oh yeah i saw that the notice

8:44 Z-FunWithBooks long story short, you know the picture I took of that comment? Yrah that

8:44 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC yeah i know

8:44 Z-FunWithBooks I think she was right though I was embarrassing someone else that’s not right

8:44 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC but serioiusly? you should have been able to at least tell your friends what happened and why you wnated to leave

8:45 Z-FunWithBooks I could’ve done it without showing the comment

8:45 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC Yeah, but I would have fought harder for you to not leave. at frist, I didn't quite understand, but the pic helped

8:46 Z-FunWithBooks And who owns that google doc? Cause now they probably now my school email....

8:46 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC and REALLY? ONE NOTICE. and you've lost all your chances of EVER becoming a moderator what doc?

8:46 Z-FunWithBooks So? The google doc with your evidence

8:46 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC they set it so that access expres

8:46 Z-FunWithBooks I do ‘t even want to be a mod oh good

8:46 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC I've heard a lot of people complaining and sad becasue they got ONE notice

8:47 Z-FunWithBooks Im to busy on FFK You know, if someone told you I abused my power, what would you do? Would you do this whole thing against me?

8:49 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC I would ask them to talk to you, and if they said no, I would do this. I really try to make sure that all the communities are in good places, but yeah, first I would look into it, but if it was true, to be honest, I would. But hopefully, you would stay my friend, because I would do it with evidence, but if there was no evidence, I wouldn't do it. But if there was, I would.

8:50 Z-FunWithBooks Okay. That’s nice 🙂 Do I abuse my power?

8:50 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC What were you hoping for as an answer lol? no I don't think that you do.

8:50 Z-FunWithBooks Cause I’ve given a warming once *warning

8:50 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC yeah that makes sense

8:51 Z-FunWithBooks As someone who’s given a warning, (and it was one of my really good friends) I can say how hard it is

8:51 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC I've done it before on the Disocrd It was probably harder on the wiki tho

8:52 Z-FunWithBooks So you know it’s hard it id

8:52 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC yeah

8:52 Z-FunWithBooks Because here, we’re a smaller community, so we’re all really close
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8:52 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC (but then Eva decides that the warning she gave me was innacurate? and she keeps it?)

8:52 Z-FunWithBooks Warnings are supposed to help you? So just accept it?

8:52 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC I know that/

8:53 Z-FunWithBooks Okay

8:53 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC I've looked over every single warning

8:53 Z-FunWithBooks okay

8:53 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC in the page

8:53 Z-FunWithBooks Mhm

8:54 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC Actually it wasn't a warning it was a "violation of rules" I checked with her before I "violated the rules"

8:54 Z-FunWithBooks So?

8:54 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC she still gave me a "violation" thing

8:54 Z-FunWithBooks Okay then

8:54 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC I've seen that she does that for TONS of people

8:54 Z-FunWithBooks Will being an Admin/Mod help you in life later?

8:55 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC yeah I knwo that it will I've talked to my parents about it

8:55 Z-FunWithBooks How so? Because I don’t think so well, maybe admin, but not mod Hello?

8:57 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC It's complicated, but being a (good) administrator can help the community, even a mod. My parents said "So, you want to be on discord/the wiki frequently?" I said "Yeah." They said "Okay, why?" I said "Because I want to stay involved with the community." they said "That's a good reason." it was more of a complicated conversation than that but it was like tat

8:57 Z-FunWithBooks Okay Being an Admin/Mod also gives you leadership

8:57 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC being a good part of the community can help you for later in life social skills, as well as pleasure in the moment.

8:57 Z-FunWithBooks Just pointing it out. :p

8:58 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC I gives leadership, and for some reason my mom is super into "student leadership" (eye roll) so she wants me to do as much of it as possible so that I can practice for doing something better later in life? I actually have no idea why lol

8:58 Z-FunWithBooks But Charlotte, don’t you think that this is a bit much? This is your opinion. And you have a right to it. Just as I have a right to mine

8:59 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC wdym?

9:00 Z-FunWithBooks I disagree with this whole ‘admins are abusing power’ but you dont

9:00 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC o yeah

9:00 Z-FunWithBooks your opinion, and my opinion Why did you think I’d be a part of this?

9:01 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC If the admins are abusing the power, they need to at least listen to the people that they are "ruling over". They can't administrate based solely on their perception of how the wiki/discord is. They have to do something about it, not just sit back and do what they're told to.

9:01 Z-FunWithBooks For future reference, I’ll never be a part of anything like this. It’s cyber bullying, the way you and the anonymous people are doing it

9:02 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC Okay.

9:02 Z-FunWithBooks That’s a good point, but I don’t need to get involved

9:02 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC I know that you don't want to get involved

9:02 Z-FunWithBooks And plus, this is going to create a heck load of drama

9:03 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC but how are the citizens of the wiki PUSHING BACK and starting a revolution against people ABUSING their power cyberbullying? Eva and Cath are both good friends of mine, but we have solid evidence.

9:04 Z-FunWithBooks Because you’re forgetting that this is back-biting

9:04 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC ?

9:04 Z-FunWithBooks Talking about someone behind there back?

9:04 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC If the administration steps back, I'm not going to request administration permissions (at least until MONTHS from now)

9:04 Z-FunWithBooks Okay what am I exactly supposed to do with that information? And Char, sometimes you can be... kinda biased

9:06 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC Talking about someone behind their back? We can't organize something like this without "talking behind backs" it's less doing that, and more finding evidence. I haven't been ranting, I've been evidence collecting

9:06 Z-FunWithBooks Oh sorry 9:06 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC nrtw

9:07 Z-FunWithBooks AHH HELP THE FEELLSSSSS But don’t get Cress involved in this she’s to nice Cress is probably one of the nicest people I’ve ever talked too don’t you agree?

9:07 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC agreed

9:07 Z-FunWithBooks Yeah

9:07 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC She's awesome eeeeeek my cat is biting my armpit fjdalkjf;dfk;ldfjasdkfjhdsfkjhv

9:08 Z-FunWithBooks Icj
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9:08 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC SHTAPIT ADA wHYYYYY

9:08 Z-FunWithBooks ADA NO

9:08 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC lol she stopped immana feed her 1 sec BITING MY SHOULDERDLJKLKSD

9:08 Z-FunWithBooks I have cat controlling powersssssss Oof

9:09 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC lkol they are eating we're also going to request tahat all of the super inactive admins get removed of position (i feel like u would agree) (they dont do anything, why do they have the power?)

9:10 Z-FunWithBooks Welll I kinda do?

9:10 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC gtg sry

9:10 Z-FunWithBooks But they have to be reported to fandom staff?

9:10 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC do u agree tho

9:10 Z-FunWithBooks So? Kinda?

9:10 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC no they havent'

9:10 Z-FunWithBooks They do they’re BCrats

9:11 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC they do what i knwo that

9:11 Z-FunWithBooks only fandom staff can remove BCrats

9:11 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC i know that they havent been reported yet but we will

9:11 Z-FunWithBooks They haven’t done anything so horrible for that? But, when you send the message thing, you have to tell her Melissa didn’t have anything to do with this Because you guys haven’t talked to her yet

9:14 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC k

9:14 Z-FunWithBooks Thanks

9:14 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC but they're inactive and listed as admins

9:14 Z-FunWithBooks Charlotte

9:14 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC ye

9:15 Z-FunWithBooks They”re also Bereucrats

9:15 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC i know cant we report them for inactivity?

9:15 Z-FunWithBooks If they get reported to FANDOM staff, that’s just... horrible

9:15 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC or ask them to step down, at least

9:15 Z-FunWithBooks They can’t Only FANDOM Staff can remove them

9:16 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC i know just not list them on the admin page if they DONT DO ANYTHING TO HELP

9:16 Z-FunWithBooks That’s a good idea but they might also be busy with irl stuff

9:16 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC true Crazykiki hasnt edited since 2017

9:17 Z-FunWithBooks If I went inactive for a week, because of irl stuff, do I deserve to be reported? Okay, maybe she need s to be reported. But you need to get permission from the already there BCrats. And don’t forget, Suldreen is one of the Admins

9:18 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC nope i know

9:18 Z-FunWithBooks She hasn’t done anything

9:18 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC were going to put it in the letter

9:18 Z-FunWithBooks She’s one of my best friends

9:18 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC suldreen is who we're mainly contacting BECAUSE she hasn't done anything

9:19 Z-FunWithBooks That makes ensue....
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9:19 Charlotte O CATS KOTLC yeah

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